Here's are a few comments by John Buol of the Firearm User Nertwork on the article: Investigating And Using Point Shooting In PO Firearms Training.

>> It would be nice to know what is used in actual CQ encounters and then train via competition, shot timers, ect. in how to do that to a very high level of effectiveness.

Yes, that would be nice to know. Too bad almost every police, military, CCW, and tactical class never bothers to establish a proven approach to elevate skill levels of every student beyond the novice, introductory skill levels that most remain at.

However, we do have some data. Research the real-world results of people known to have a high level of skill, such as established in formal competition, and decide if that works. Here's a short list to get you started:

Bonnie Harmon, SGT Clark (7th Cavalry, first Distinguished Rifleman awarded by Philip Sheridan), GEN George Patton, Harry Reeves, Horace Bivens, Jack Arcularius, Frank Kruk, Lones Wigger, Tommy Pool, Bill Kriling, SSG Jim Gilliland, COL Colonel Walter R. Walsh, MAJ "Iron Mike" Eddson, Ryan and Jason Benedict, Daniel Duetsman, Leroy Brink, SGM Skiles (USMC, at Fallujah), Bill Allard, Charles Askins, Simo "Simuna" Hayha, Carlos Hathcock, Jim Land, Herbert McBride, Sam Woodfill, Kyle Lamb, Frank Proctor, Pat McNamara, Brian McKibben.

If that isn't enough, cross reference every Distinguished Rifleman and Pistol Shot that has military and/or police experience and see if they found their shooting experience useful.

Do the same for anyone with a Master classification or higher from NRA, USPSA, and/or other national-level competitive organization.

>> Hoping that shooting training will transfer over in a real time life or death situation is a nice thought, but CQB studies have established that what most all PO's and civilian shooters are trained in (SS), is just not used in CQB.

No. CQB studies have shown what the majority of people do under stress and the majority is under trained. That CQB event was likely their first stress shoot as there is little to no stress in most military, police, and tactical shooting classes and qualification. This has zero representation of what actual, skilled, higher-level shooters will do under stress.

The majority remains at low levels of skill because most trainers continue to remain at novice levels. Most police and military would need to increase skill by 200-300% just to (finally) arrive at minimal competent levels. Until this changes, no amount of pontification of an "ideal" approach matters.


Thanks to John for his comments, and his Firearm User site, which has articles for those interested in firearms and their effective use.

Unfortunately, reality is that if competition is the key to effective CQB shooting, you would think that those in charge of Police training would have figured that out by now since it could mean life or death for their charges, and also made the morally responsible decision to make allowances in initial and continuing training programs to accommodate the need for participation in competition.

To me, continuing to teach Sight Shooting for use in CQB situations without augmenting it with basic Point Shooting training, is just wrong. I would welcome pics and/or videos Sight Shooting ever being used effectively in CQB. If you know of one/some, e-mail me. I'll post it/them.

Point Shooting is proven to be effective in CQB situations, and can be learned and maintained with minimal instruction and practice. As such, Point Shooting training would be the cheaper and more sensible path to effective CQB shooting.

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